Role of Amma in Enlightenment

(These are excerpts taken from the darshans of Sri Bhagavan at the Oneness University, where Bhagavan speaks about Amma.)

Q:)Bhagavan, what is the role of Amma in Mukti(Enlightenment)?

Bhagavan: See, Amma and I are two sides of the same coin. We are not really different. For practical purposes we have said, let Amma look after the Varas (Desires)and I look after Mukti(Enlightenment).

Maybe after some months I will shift over to Varas and Amma will shift over to Mukti. We can interchange, but when we work in the Mukti process I handle one particular Nadi and she handles one particular Nadi. And generally we won't interchange. And if the problems are related to your father, because these are very vital things, then I would be handling them, and if the problems are related to the mother, Amma would be handling them, because these things control your process actually - your relationship with your parents. And the other thing is, when I tend to 'explain', Amma tends to 'act'. So you need both these components. If somebody comes and tells me - I have this problem, I will try to explain to him why is this problem and that better he understand this and understands that, all that. Amma and I, we have our arguments and Amma says "Look! He already has a problem, he cannot even think, you are trying to explain to him right now. That we will see later, first let us solve his problem." My argument is that if you solve the problem, he runs away. So it goes on like this.

And there are some things, when people have to be mothered, because it is a very wrong kind of delivery and therefore Amma has to mother him. So that kind of thing. We have complementary roles to play. But though in the Mukti(Enlightenment) process both will be involved.

At a physical level, Amma is focussing more on the desires aspect and I am focusing more on the Mukti(Enlightenment) aspect. In essence there is no great difference. It is like two sides of the same coin. And basically I handle what is called the stillness. i.e. whenever you are very still you know that I am handling it and where is some kind of movement of consciousness it will be Amma who is handling it. Stillness and movement would be alternating, though sometimes Amma may take over stillnes and I may take over movement. I can't tell you why we exchange, but then the ultimate is stillness and movement; the ultimate truth in case there is an 'ultimate truth'. You will see what is there is only stillness and movement. These two only will be alternating. This only creates the universe and everything on it. These things are there. It is an experience. That is why when Christ, when asked once, where do you come from? He made a remark that - tell them, that I have come from stillness and movement. You understand that you understood a lot. So, this you will experience in the process.

Q:) Even before I complete my prayers to Amma, she delivers the boon on my lap. Why is Amma, so fast and compassionate, Bhagavan? Do the Pancha Boothas obey Her word and act immediately?

Bhagavan: See, even in your families, the mother is generally quick to appease you. Your father is a bit tough. It is exactly the same thing here. There's no difference at all. That's why, what you must do is, incase I am not answering, you must shift to Amma. But Amma is also tough in Her own way. She may be very demanding, she might put conditions on you "Ok I will do this for you, but do this." Most of Amma's conditionings would be "Do this, I will give this to you." But my thing is "I will do this, but understand this." I focus more on learning. Amma focus more on karma. So you have to choose.